Rest In Peace

You know what’s the worst thing about Leslie Dying? I just watched the Naked Gun 2 and 1/2 the day before his death, and THAT REALLY BLOWS!!!

Well, at least we still have Lloyd Bridges…and Bob Barker.

Actually, Bridges passed away in 1998. :frowning:

Wow, that early? I’m missing out.

Least we still have bob barker.

^ That’s true :frowning:

Sad news for film music fans everywhere. John Barry has died.

Barry was one of the greats. Anyone who knows their Pixar trivia is aware of the fact that he was the original choice for composer for The Incredibles and that the Giacchino’s actual score to the film was an excellent tribute to his work on the Bond films. Even the main theme is an homage to his theme for On Her Majesty’s Secret Service. Something that was fully acknowledged by it use in one of the first trailers for the film.

He will be missed.

I usually don’t get choked up about celebrity deaths, but this one…

Aw, that stinks. :frowning: Oh, well. He’s not trapped on a planet full of tasteless people, most of which wouldn’t know who he is.

RIP

Rest in peace, dude. Thank you for all of your contributions. You will be missed, and never forgotten.

Rest in peace. you will be missed.

R.I.P.

I’ll never forget the Zulu score, awesome.

I forgot he did Zulu, dude! I almost like the Zulu score as well as Bond…almost. :frowning: I feel really bad that he’s gone. He was as good as John Williams, IMO.

RIP, John Barry. You’re a master maestro.

a great comedian, you will be missed among us, R.I.P.

A loved man, who just had to die a day before i had watched him on Naked Gun 2 1/2.

I hate to be somewhat random. But I just saw the Mr. Magoo movie the other day. And Leslie Neilsen was the only good thing about it. :frowning:

At the time of writing, news has just broken an hour ago that the Most Wanted Man on Earth is now officially dead. Well, he was dead a couple of hours ago, but now he’s really dead as declared by the POTUS’ speech. I’m not sure if this is an appropriate thread to start in a family-friendly forum, but this is surely to be the most defining moment of the decade, and bears contemplation and rumination. Please remember to keep this discussion as civil and courteous as possible.

So while we await the pictures and the inevitable ‘Mr Osama, this is your life’ television specials, what do you guys think of this momentous occasion?

Personally I can’t believe that after more than a decade, he has finally been stopped. I wonder whether SEAL Team Six (aka Tier 1, the unit responsible for the operation) did a preemptive strike, or did they kill him in self-defense? Anyway, it is possible that he did put up a fight and made it difficult for the troop to extract him. I would have much liked them to capture him alive and haul him before a War Tribunal, but knowing how an important figure he is to Al Qaeda, maybe it would’ve been easier with this outcome than risk further attacks by his supporters in the process of escorting him.

No doubt President Obama will gain massive kudos points, and perhaps George Bush too, though the real credit should go to the ordinary men and women of the American military and special forces on the frontlines.

I really can’t believe it’s finally Mission Accomplished. While it isn’t the end of terrorism (there are other groups around the world, some even non-religious), this is definitely a huge blow to Al Qaeda. We should take heed of the POTUS’ advice to remain ever vigilant, and I’m not surprised if there will be a retaliatory attack in the coming days. We must also remember that we are not against Islam or any other religion for that matter. We are against extremist nutjobs who misinterpret and twist the meaning of religion in the name of perpetrating senseless violence against innocent civilians and non-combatants.

Let us remember that we are united against terrorists and terrorism, and that we are all in this together.

I also posted about this in another board. I wrote:

I’m pleased to see I’m not the only one in here who shares this terrible feeling :neutral_face:

SoA; If by feeling, you mean that he should be taken alive rather than killed, then yes, I share your sentiments, bro.

Most people who read my posts and know me would understand that I am a very subjective person. I do not believe in dualism, or dichotomy, or that ‘good vs evil’ BS (except of course when it’s done in movies, but even then I prefer well-developed villains and flawed heroes). We are all capable of great villainous acts, and the range of human evil is a spectrum, not an ‘either/or’ choice. Are the collateral loss of Iraqi civilian lives justified for ‘liberating’ the country? Is it justified to overthrow a government and install your own based on the conviction of your belief in freedom and democracy?

Are you capable of killing a human being, just because he was responsible (if not directly, indirectly) for the deaths of millions? Would we ever know if they had a chance to ‘take him alive’ and give him the sentence of exile from humanity that he deserves?

I’m not saying SEAL Team Six shouldn’t have taken the shot, especially if he and his security were attacking them and threatening the safety of the team. I’m also not saying that he deserves death, despite the atrocities he has been committed.

I’m just merely glad that, whether dead or alive, he has been stopped. He is now powerless, and his reign of terror has ended. No doubt there will be more of his lieutenants crawling out of the woodwork, and the threat of retaliation from his supporters a very real possibility. But this will definitely go down in history as a major success for the US troops, and Obama’s administration, whether you believe the Americans did the right thing invading Iraq, or if you’re an Obama supporter (or not).

Overall, it’s best he’s been stopped, but yeah it feels a bit skeevy almost to me to be celebrating a death, granted I can understand why people are pleased, particulary those who lost loved ones to him or feared him. He is a major symbol.

Apparently this happened on the anniversary of Hitler’s death announcement on May 1st (I believe). And people have being making comparisons. Granted they were of course very different in a sense. While both were symbols, Hitler committed suicide BECAUSE he was losing, Osma might be the beginning of his group losing.

Plus while Hitler did try to use christianity to a degree in order to spread his teachings (mixed with some ultimately bizarre teachings etc. and replacing Mein Kampf with the bible and other weird things)- Osama is a more devout believer and of course his terroist cell ultimately believe they are doing the right thing. I think that’s something people can’t wrap their head around sometimes. They DON’T think they’re evil after all. Ultimately they believe they are doing god’s work (and who ultimately in their eyes can argue with their own god?). In a sense, just like Hitler freakishly thought his genocidal, political and homophoic massacres were the right thing for Germany and the Reich, heck even morally not just in terms of power. That’s what makes it scary. People don’t rub their hands and laugh like cartoon villians.

As important as Osama is though at least perhaps as a symbol, he’s not god or a prophet. He’s not like Hitler in the sense who could have been considered Nazi Germany itself, who was so important to that cause. It overall depends- how good of a leader was Osama? How much of a symbol to his followers? Will this just be a temporary set back that ultimately the forces will have to take advantage of as there is a gapo in power, with time of being the essence? Or will it be permanent? (I find that last idea doubtful).

Someone else could fill the position. But then he was quite the symbol… for the west anyway.

This isn’t the end. Beginning of the end? Well maybe- that remains to be said. Only hindsight in a maybe say a few years will we have a clearer picture. After all, despite what fantasy books say, wars aren’t ultimately over just because the ‘dark lord’ or whatever has been taken down. With Hitler he took HIMSELF down because the war WAS ending and he was losing already after all. This is a bit different.

Still it’s better he’s not there anymore, as sad as someone who wasted his life being hateful and murderous all in the name of god is he possibly wasn’t going to be stopped in any other way even if live capture and perhaps eventual trial would have been better. He thought he was right, no doubt in his last moments he probably thought he was going to heaven in any case.

Which is why of course the terrorists in this case do not fear death and take themselves out. They are truely believers.

IDK, if someone has the skills or power to be a leader I doubt they’ll be particulary fearful or not want to take it at all. Sure the life expectancy is lower perhaps (though it took them a while to get him) and all but if they ultimately believe in the cause they’ll be going to somewhere wonderful anyway. With Nazi’s it was extremist patronism with racism and homophobia and sexism etc, with osama and his followers religious extremism.

Though hell, people might even fight each other too much for the position and ultimately THAT could eventually result in their downfall- like people splitting up into more bitesize chunks and being picked off one by one.

Justice has been served for the 9/11 victims.

So awesome. Best news I’ve heard in a while. Yes, mostly it is wrong to celebrate someone’s death, but in the case of Osama however…

He was responsible for the death of thousands on that day in 2001, and he started a war on America, getting even more people killed. People have EVERY reason to celebrate what happened to him. The guy who shot him is an American hero.

Some people don’t believe this news (they think he was dead previously) but I do. Al-Qaeda is still active, but they probably won’t have as much power due to the demise of their leader. The only thing that worries me is revenge attacks.

Still, I get the feeling that this war-on-terror will be over soon…

And yes, I apologise if this post isn’t very civil. :laughing:

Nah, I diagree it will soon be over myself, still will be power disputes and someone will take over or try to- which will possibly eventually be their downfall. Maybe.

Personally I’d have preferred a trial if anything for just the symbolism of it all (you know bringing to justice and all and having to stand in a witness box strikes me as quite delicious).

Still normal regular Muslims and many people have reason to be happy and I’m hardly shedding any tears over the fact he’s no longer here.

Apparently he used some poor woman as a human shield or something (from what I hear). So maybe he wasn’t such a big believer in his after life meal ticket? Who the heck knows though.